tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post8198733308691389543..comments2024-02-02T10:18:48.627-05:00Comments on NSL Photography Blog: Farewell to Facebook, at least for galleries and samplesNed S. Levihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-69653016571641572992012-07-13T12:33:19.956-04:002012-07-13T12:33:19.956-04:00PG, there is nothing to go to battle about with Fa...PG, there is nothing to go to battle about with Facebook. They are completely within their legal rights to set the terms of use for their service.<br /><br />Our choice as photographers is do we want to use their site or not, under the rules set.<br /><br />Photographers are a very small segment of all Facebook users, so I doubt that we have very much power against them, to get them to Ned S. Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-36121746690805137232012-07-13T11:42:14.455-04:002012-07-13T11:42:14.455-04:00Maybe instead of just delegating our content and w...Maybe instead of just delegating our content and walking away, we should do some collective bargaining and hire a copyright lawyer to battle this. If we all posted it and got people to send in $5 or $10, maybe we could just stand a chance at a better contract.Pixie Glorehttp://www.pixieglore.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-51329175072661173602012-07-08T19:13:09.902-04:002012-07-08T19:13:09.902-04:00Ned, I'm not removing my photos for now, but I...Ned, I'm not removing my photos for now, but I'm not a very good photographer, and Facebook lets me allow my family, which is all over the globe, see what I'm up to.<br /><br />I am very glad you wrote this article (and your others) and thank you for keeping us up to date about important photography issues.<br /><br />Please keep it going.Janice - Pittsburghnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-2752915946468746192012-07-08T18:17:42.013-04:002012-07-08T18:17:42.013-04:00Jeff, thanks for your readership. Whether or not F...Jeff, thanks for your readership. Whether or not Facebook intends to use any photographers' photographs, amateur or professional, for their own benefit, they have established their right to not only do so, but have also established their right to sell and permit the use, of their users' photographs, to an unlimited number of individuals and businesses, and to be able to use the Ned S. Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-41802260571004024052012-07-08T11:57:59.160-04:002012-07-08T11:57:59.160-04:00When I first found out about this, I decided to ke...When I first found out about this, I decided to keep my photos on FB and keep an eye on it, and that still holds.<br /><br />Right now, my opinion is that the contract was written by lawyers trying to indemnify against anything that could come up in the future, not an intentional rights grab. That doesn't mean it can't be used as such.<br /><br />Unfortunately, FB is still the best venueJeff Lhttp://jslinderml.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-87548574287370120222012-07-08T09:40:17.460-04:002012-07-08T09:40:17.460-04:00I had no idea about this. Thanks Ned. I just finis...I had no idea about this. Thanks Ned. I just finished deleting my photos from Facebook. I opened an account at Flickr and posted them there.Vic - Duluthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-79114595030196402812012-07-01T20:29:57.720-04:002012-07-01T20:29:57.720-04:00I had no idea Facebook put anything like that in t...I had no idea Facebook put anything like that in their contract with us. They've stolen the value of our photos and videos. We may still own them, but the rights they've claimed for themselves have rendered the value of the photos and videos to zero.<br /><br />I'm removing my photos this week.<br /><br />Thanks for the well-written and well thought out article.Steven - SFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-18795942767551835342012-07-01T20:14:26.908-04:002012-07-01T20:14:26.908-04:00I guess I didn't understand you article when I...I guess I didn't understand you article when I read it. You've convinced me after rereading the article.Dotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-11926916532062982822012-07-01T19:58:59.798-04:002012-07-01T19:58:59.798-04:00Dot, thanks for being a reader. I have no problem ...Dot, thanks for being a reader. I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me, but I don't think you've looked at the facts.<br /><br />If Facebook was merely trying to protect themselves, they would have certainly said that each user was granting Facebook a license for the photos and videos. That way they could be protected as photos were moved, copied, rearranged, etc, or thumbnailsNed S. Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-78305806527841215522012-07-01T19:41:15.739-04:002012-07-01T19:41:15.739-04:00Is Facebook really that bad? Ned have they actuall...Is Facebook really that bad? Ned have they actually taken any of your photos? If not why are you so hard on them. Why do you think they're out to make money on your work or other photographers.<br /><br />This is the first time I can't agree with you.<br /><br />I think they're just protecting themselves. I don't think it's a big deal or are trying to make money from their Dot - LAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-56977877769550788462012-07-01T19:38:13.919-04:002012-07-01T19:38:13.919-04:00Ned, thanks. I just removed all my photographs fro...Ned, thanks. I just removed all my photographs from Facebook. I see you use Smugmug for your photos. Do you think they do a good job?Walternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-32376288337103188662012-07-01T18:29:20.925-04:002012-07-01T18:29:20.925-04:00I love using Facebook. I'm not changing away f...I love using Facebook. I'm not changing away from them for such a minor thing. They don't want my photos.Jerrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-56274683563555622222012-07-01T18:27:45.107-04:002012-07-01T18:27:45.107-04:00Facebook isn't going to make money from my pho...Facebook isn't going to make money from my photos, but on principle, I'm dumping them.Cynthianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-84250006664579898502012-07-01T18:26:03.474-04:002012-07-01T18:26:03.474-04:00Why can't Facebook treat their users fairly an...Why can't Facebook treat their users fairly and still make a buck?Jon - Chicagonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-38317787671257419062012-07-01T18:24:28.341-04:002012-07-01T18:24:28.341-04:00So they really aren't "friends."So they really aren't "friends."Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-41600037725954379162012-07-01T18:23:51.006-04:002012-07-01T18:23:51.006-04:00Andrew, if you want to protect your photos from Fa...Andrew, if you want to protect your photos from Facebook, put them in a gallery somewhere else and merely tell your "friends." where they can find them.Ned S. Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-68014214509158965752012-07-01T18:19:53.633-04:002012-07-01T18:19:53.633-04:00Beth I'm up to 15,345 friends.Beth I'm up to 15,345 friends.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-16979517913573541362012-07-01T17:30:53.442-04:002012-07-01T17:30:53.442-04:00Andrew, how many friends do you have?Andrew, how many friends do you have?Beth in Berkleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-56882648114886018122012-07-01T17:29:40.808-04:002012-07-01T17:29:40.808-04:00Andrew, you have to decide for yourself. You could...Andrew, you have to decide for yourself. You could always send a group email or text with photos to your friends.Ned S. Levihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09924189990444148376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-59451354244213859972012-07-01T17:28:00.185-04:002012-07-01T17:28:00.185-04:00I love Facebook and use it constantly, but this is...I love Facebook and use it constantly, but this is a problem. I post photos all the time from my iPhone wherever I go so my friends know what's going on. Lately I've been posting my Canon Rebel photos on Facebook too. I got a great one last week of a sunset in Hawaii.<br /><br />I don't want to give up Facebook, but I don't like that they think they own my photos. Maybe I'll Andrew - Winnipegnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-41072077645523321232012-07-01T17:24:32.744-04:002012-07-01T17:24:32.744-04:00Just another reason to tell Facebook what they can...Just another reason to tell Facebook what they can do with themselves. When they totally reset my privacy settings last year, that was it for me. I didn't want to deal with them any longer.Harris - Bostonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-37373848132962125502012-07-01T17:05:05.049-04:002012-07-01T17:05:05.049-04:00I've been getting tired of the inane comments ...I've been getting tired of the inane comments from friends on my Facebook page. This photo thing is the final straw. I'm going to dump my account tonight.<br /><br />Thanks for the info Ned.Liz - Fort Worthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-42675952451930724822012-07-01T16:40:00.127-04:002012-07-01T16:40:00.127-04:00Wow, I didn't know there was a contract and th...Wow, I didn't know there was a contract and they could do that. I'm taking your advice. I'm going to open a Flickr account for my photos.Charlene - New Yorknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1184534445566567352.post-28919502571938987862012-07-01T16:38:41.946-04:002012-07-01T16:38:41.946-04:00I deleted my Facebook account last month. They are...I deleted my Facebook account last month. They are the most arrogant company on Earth.Jim - Des Moinesnoreply@blogger.com